Thursday, 31 December 2015
The clue's there.
I've been told there is a clue to the Ripper's identity right on the cover of this book.... I'm suspecting the man with a bowler or a bearded policeman?
Wednesday, 30 December 2015
Niggling
Finally, I've got the story line and found Mary's voice. I'm accepting Mary as Irish born, although I have a niggling feeling she was Dutch ...
Monday, 28 December 2015
Mary Jane Kelly and Elizabeth Jackson.
Mary Jane Kelly and Elizabeth Jackson. Now there’s a puzzle.
Not only did they share the same appearance, they were linked by the same name
and a pair of second hand drawers.
Mary was extraordinarily tall (5 ft 7 in) for the period.
Men’s average height, at the outbreak of WW1, was 5 ft 6 in. She had reddish
blonde hair, a fair complexion, and blue eyes. She was twenty five years of age
(approximately).
Elizabeth Jackson was tall. She stood 5 ft 5 in. She had
sandy blonde hair and a fair complexion. More than likely she had blue eyes. She
was twenty five years of age. Six months after the slaughter of Mary Kelly in
her room at 13 Millers Court -November 1888, Elizabeth Jackson was murdered
-early June 1889. Her body parts were discovered at various locations around
the Thames. Her torso was hidden in amongst shrubbery in Battersea Park. Her
body was divided into twelve separate parts. Her head was never found. The name
L. E. Fisher was written on the waistband of her undergarment and used to wrap
a portion of her body.
Several newspaper sources referred to Mary Jane Kelly as
‘Lizzie Fisher’ when reporting her murder. The drawers bearing the name “L. E.
Fisher” on the band were bought at a lodging house at Ipswich. They originally
belonged to a domestic servant at Kirkley; near Lowestoft. Her mother sold the
drawers as rags while staying near her daughter in November 1888. She was
traced to Byker, near Newcastle, her father, who had marked the clothing,
recognized his handwriting, to Bill Quay, on the Tyne.
Mary Jane Kelly was known as: Marie Jeanette Kelly, Mary Ann
Kelly, Ginger, Fair Emma, Mary Janet Kelly and Lizzie Fisher.
Sunday, 27 December 2015
A widow had a certain status in Victorian society ...
Why would a married woman, recently widowed, use her maiden name (Kelly) and not her married name (Davies)? A widow had a certain status in Victorian society ...
"Barnett told the press that she 'kept out of the way' on one occasion when her father came to London to look for her. A story that suggests that she was anxious to escape her past. It is also unlikely that Barnett recalled her random recollections accurately. Nevertheless, there is almost certainly some truth in Barnett's narrative." Sugden.
But then if she was intent on hiding why use one of the names by which she was known? Why not create an alias?
She was in contact with at least one of her relatives in Ireland. Perhaps that answers my question posed above regarding an alias. Mary's Landlord, John McCarthy, believed she received letters from her mother. But Mary stated she was estranged from her family. I believe the correspondence was from her 'sister' Bridget. She doesn't reappear in the census until 1891. I think she returned to Ireland with her Irish husband, Edward Davies the cab driver, for the period covering the census of 1881 and soon after her marriage.
OK, I've answered my question about not inventing a name, but why return to her maiden name?
Cold Case: Jack The Ripper.
Cold Case www.questtv.co.uk/ aired 26th Dec 2015.
Cold Case: Jack The Ripper. "If it's good enough for the investigating officer at the time, it's good enough for me..." Therefore, the man who made that statement isn't satisfied they found the right man! Macnaughten, who believed the Ripper was Kaminsky, wasn't a serving officer in 1888.
Cold Case: Jack The Ripper. "If it's good enough for the investigating officer at the time, it's good enough for me..." Therefore, the man who made that statement isn't satisfied they found the right man! Macnaughten, who believed the Ripper was Kaminsky, wasn't a serving officer in 1888.
Wednesday, 23 December 2015
Thursday, 17 December 2015
Blindingly, bloody obvious.
Ah! Bridget and Mary are first cousins. At last. She speaks. OK, just a murmur, but surprisingly, she's in a place that raised an eyebrow.
Monday, 14 December 2015
Yet another Mary Jane Kelly.
Yet another Mary Jane Kelly.
Ireland Civil Registration Indexes
Name Mary Jane Kelly
Event Type Marriage
Event Date Apr - Jun 1878
Event Place Galway, Ireland
Registration Quarter and Year Apr - Jun 1878
Registration District Galway.
Ireland Civil Registration Indexes
Name Mary Jane Kelly
Event Type Marriage
Event Date Apr - Jun 1878
Event Place Galway, Ireland
Registration Quarter and Year Apr - Jun 1878
Registration District Galway.
Saturday, 12 December 2015
Name: Mary Jane Kelly
Mary Jane Kelly
mentioned in the record of John Kelly
Name Mary Jane Kelly
Gender Female
Son John Kelly
Other information in the record of John Kelly
from Ireland Births and Baptisms
Name John Kelly
Gender Male
Birth Date 12 Mar 1881
Birthplace Parsonstown, Kings, Ireland
Mother's Name Mary Jane Kelly.
This Mary Jane is an unmarried mother. Parsonstown workhouse would be the the position of last resort for a woman bearing an illegitimate child.
mentioned in the record of John Kelly
Name Mary Jane Kelly
Gender Female
Son John Kelly
Other information in the record of John Kelly
from Ireland Births and Baptisms
Name John Kelly
Gender Male
Birth Date 12 Mar 1881
Birthplace Parsonstown, Kings, Ireland
Mother's Name Mary Jane Kelly.
This Mary Jane is an unmarried mother. Parsonstown workhouse would be the the position of last resort for a woman bearing an illegitimate child.
Friday, 11 December 2015
Cousins perhaps?
More Kellys living in Wrexham. Cousins perhaps? Unfortunately the head of the house isn't listed.
Bridget Kelly
England
and Wales Census, 1851 born 1845
Name
|
Bridget Kelly
|
|||||
Event Type
|
Census
|
|||||
Event Date
|
1851
|
|||||
Event Place
|
, Denbighshire, Wales
|
|||||
Registration District
|
Wrexham
|
|||||
Residence Note
|
Mount Street
|
|||||
Gender
|
Female
|
|||||
Age
|
6
|
|||||
Relationship to Head of Household
|
Daughter
|
|||||
Birth Year (Estimated)
|
1845
|
|||||
Birthplace
|
Ireland
|
|||||
Household |
Role |
Gender |
Age |
Birthplace |
||
Bridget Kelly
|
Daughter
|
1845
|
F
|
6
|
Ireland
|
|
Cathrine Kelly
|
Niece
|
1832
|
F
|
19
|
Ireland
|
|
John Kelly
|
Nephew
|
1817
|
M
|
34
|
Ireland
|
|
Patrick Kelly
|
Nephew
|
1841
|
M
|
10
|
Ireland
|
|
William Freeman
|
M
|
18
|
Liverpool, Lancashire
|
|||
Bryan O’Neil
|
M
|
70
|
Ireland
|
|||
Thomas Munchon
|
M
|
40
|
Ireland
|
|||
Bridget Munchon
|
1815
|
F
|
36
|
Ireland
|
Saturday, 5 December 2015
Joe Barnett and Bridget Kelly.
Most of what is known about Mary Kelly is taken from Joseph Barnett's statement.
Her name: Mary Kelly. Her age: twenty five. Her age on marriage: sixteen. Her husband's name: John Davies or Davis. His death in a mine explosion. She had a child living with her: six to seven years of age. etc etc. All well reported and easily found with a few keywords in a search engine.
There is John Davies killed in a mine explosion Brymbo 1880. This would place her marriage, common law or not, in the year 1878, 1877, if she were married to this collier for two to three years .
Why would 'Mary Kelly' move to London?
There is a correlation or at least coincidental data regarding the discredited Kellys of .Brymbo. I've not discounted them, not yet ...
The census of 1871:
***
***
Bridget Kelly has toddled off from this family home by 1881.
Bridget Kelly married one of the following people Edwin Senior or Edward Davies.
Marriage
Registration Quarter Apr-May-Jun
Registration Year 1878
Registration District Wrexham
County Denbighshire
Event Place Wrexham, Denbighshire, Wales
***
Curiously, Bridget's mother (also called Bridget) comes from Roscommon Ireland and Edward Davies was born in Roscommon Ireland.
So why did 'Mary Kelly' go to London? Because her sister was there? I'm not saying I believe these people have a relationship with the Mary Kelly because I simply don't know, but the following is intriguing.
Bridget Kelly turns up again in the census of 1891, 1901 and then again in 1911. She's living in London with Edward Davies and he is listed as a cab driver:
***
Edward Davies
***
***
The last tie, so far, linking these families together, Bridget of Brymbo's sister, Elizabeth, was born in Ballinsinasloe, Galway:
Hubert Kelly
mentioned in the record of Elizabeth
Name Hubert Kelly
Gender Male
Wife Bridget Kelly
Daughter Elizabeth
Other information in the record of Elizabeth
from Ireland Births and Baptisms
Name Elizabeth
Gender Female
Christening Place 32, BALLINASLOE, GAL, IRE
Birth Date 06 Apr 1870
Birthplace Ballinasloe, Gal, Ire
Father's Name Hubert Kelly
Mother's Name Bridget Kelly
Her name: Mary Kelly. Her age: twenty five. Her age on marriage: sixteen. Her husband's name: John Davies or Davis. His death in a mine explosion. She had a child living with her: six to seven years of age. etc etc. All well reported and easily found with a few keywords in a search engine.
There is John Davies killed in a mine explosion Brymbo 1880. This would place her marriage, common law or not, in the year 1878, 1877, if she were married to this collier for two to three years .
Why would 'Mary Kelly' move to London?
There is a correlation or at least coincidental data regarding the discredited Kellys of .Brymbo. I've not discounted them, not yet ...
The census of 1871:
Name
|
Bridget Kelly
|
Event Type
|
Census
|
Event Date
|
1871
|
Event Place
|
Lodge, Brymbo,
Denbighshire, Wales
|
Enumeration District
|
4
|
Gender
|
Female
|
Age
|
12
|
Relationship to Head of Household
|
Daughter
|
Birth Year (Estimated)
|
1859
|
Birthplace
|
C Galway, Ireland
|
Hubert Kelly
|
Head
|
M
|
38
|
C Galway,
Ireland
|
Bridget Kelly
|
Wife
|
F
|
36
|
C Roscommon,
Ireland
|
John Kelly
|
Son
|
M
|
14
|
C Galway,
Ireland
|
Bridget Kelly
|
Daughter
|
F
|
12
|
C Galway,
Ireland
|
Hubert Kelly
|
Son
|
M
|
10
|
C Galway,
Ireland
|
Mary A Kelly
|
Daughter
|
F
|
8
|
C Galway,
Ireland
|
Patrick Kelly
|
Son
|
M
|
3
|
C Galway,
Ireland
|
Elizabeth Kelly
|
Daughter
|
F
|
1
|
C Galway,
Ireland
|
Bridget Kelly has toddled off from this family home by 1881.
Bridget Kelly married one of the following people Edwin Senior or Edward Davies.
Marriage
Registration Quarter Apr-May-Jun
Registration Year 1878
Registration District Wrexham
County Denbighshire
Event Place Wrexham, Denbighshire, Wales
***
Curiously, Bridget's mother (also called Bridget) comes from Roscommon Ireland and Edward Davies was born in Roscommon Ireland.
So why did 'Mary Kelly' go to London? Because her sister was there? I'm not saying I believe these people have a relationship with the Mary Kelly because I simply don't know, but the following is intriguing.
Bridget Kelly turns up again in the census of 1891, 1901 and then again in 1911. She's living in London with Edward Davies and he is listed as a cab driver:
Bridget Davies
England
and Wales
Census, 1891
Event Type
|
Census
|
Event Date
|
1891
|
County
|
London
|
Parish
|
St Marylebone
|
Ecclesiastical Parish
|
THE RECTORY
|
Registration District
|
Marylebone
|
Residence Note
|
Westmorland Street
|
Gender
|
Female
|
Age
|
31
|
Marital Status
|
Married
|
Relationship to Head of Household
|
Wife
|
Birth Year (Estimated)
|
1860
|
Birthplace
|
Ireland Galway
|
Household |
Role |
Gender |
Age |
Birthplace |
Edward Davies
|
Head
|
M
|
36
|
Ireland Co Roscommon
|
Bridget Davies
|
Wife
|
F
|
31
|
Ireland
Galway
|
Kathleen M Davies
|
Daughter
|
F
|
10M
|
London,
England
|
Edward Davies
England
and Wales
Census, 1901
Name
|
Edward Davies
|
|||||
Event Type
|
Census
|
|||||
Event Date
|
31 Mar 1901
|
|||||
Event Place
|
St Pancras, London, Middlesex,
England
|
|||||
County
|
London, Middlesex
|
|||||
Civil Parish
|
St Pancras
|
|||||
Ecclesiastical Parish
|
St Mary Somers Town
|
|||||
Sub-District
|
Somers Town
|
|||||
Registration District
|
St Pancras
|
|||||
Residence Note
|
Clarendon Street
|
|||||
Gender
|
Male
|
|||||
Age
|
45
|
|||||
Occupation
|
CAB DRIVER
|
|||||
Relationship to Head of Household
|
Head
|
|||||
Birth Year (Estimated)
|
1856
|
|||||
Birthplace
|
Ireland
|
|||||
Household |
Role |
Gender |
Age |
Birthplace |
||
Edward Davies
|
Head
|
M
|
45
|
Ireland
|
||
Bridget Davies
|
Wife
|
F
|
37
|
Ireland
|
||
Kathleen Davies
|
Daughter
|
F
|
10
|
Marylebone, London
|
||
Edward F Davies
|
Son
|
M
|
9
|
St Pancras, London
|
||
Mercedes M Davies
|
Daughter
|
F
|
6
|
St Pancras, London
|
Bridget Davies
England
and Wales
Census, 1911
Name
|
Bridget Davies
|
Event Type
|
Census
|
Event Date
|
1911
|
County
|
London
|
Parish
|
St Pancras
|
Sub-District
|
East St Pancras
|
Registration District
|
St Pancras
|
Gender
|
Female
|
Age
|
48
|
Birthplace
|
Ballinasloe Resident, County Galway.
|
The last tie, so far, linking these families together, Bridget of Brymbo's sister, Elizabeth, was born in Ballinsinasloe, Galway:
Hubert Kelly
mentioned in the record of Elizabeth
Name Hubert Kelly
Gender Male
Wife Bridget Kelly
Daughter Elizabeth
Other information in the record of Elizabeth
from Ireland Births and Baptisms
Name Elizabeth
Gender Female
Christening Place 32, BALLINASLOE, GAL, IRE
Birth Date 06 Apr 1870
Birthplace Ballinasloe, Gal, Ire
Father's Name Hubert Kelly
Mother's Name Bridget Kelly
A trained soldier would know this . . .
A strike to the solar plexus will deflate the
lungs. No muscles cover this area below the
sternum. It is the most efficient spot to hit to wind someone.
'If someone hits this position it will hurt. The pain will
subside in a few moments, but it takes longer for the lungs to inflate. The
pain fades, but it takes several really deep breaths before the lungs fill and
it is possible to speak . . . or scream.' The Art of Writing Fight Sequences.
A trained soldier would know this . . .
Friday, 4 December 2015
John Davies of Brymbo didn't exist? So who's this?
Jack the Ripper.John Davies, collier, of Brymbo, died in a mining accident. Is this the husband of Mary Kelly and said not to exist? If so Mary Kelly had a child.
"c. 1879: At the age of 16 she marries a collier named Davies. He is killed in an explosion two or three years later. There is a suggestion that there might have been a child in this marriage."
According to the family records he was twenty six when he died and born in 1854. As he died in June 1880 that's a five month window to find his place and date of birth date and through him discover 'Mary Kelly'.
Thursday, 3 December 2015
Davies was killed in a mine explosion.
"Davies was killed in a mine explosion. The mine-owners stalled for
eighteen months before paying her a miserable pittance by way of a
widow's compensation, and it was this delay which drove Mary on to the
streets, first in the Tiger Bay region of Cardiff, and later in London."
Tom Cullen.
He's made an emphatic statement in his book, Autumn of Terror.
The gratuity had a moral means:
'Any free member ... who may by losing a limb, or having one disabled by accident or otherwise, or through blindness, imperfect vision, apoplexy, epilepsy or paralysis, be rendered permanently unable to follow any of the branches of the trade ... (provided such was not the result of intemperance or other improper conduct), shall receive the sum of £100 on the production to the Executive Council of satisfactory medical and other testimony of such permanent disablement.
Finally, the union offered members a funeral benefit, which provided ten pounds on their death. Five pounds was paid on the death of their wife. The aim was not to assist the dependents of a dead member, but to ensure that members received a proper burial and wake. The only provision for widows and orphans was a separate discretionary Benevolent Fund, funded from special levies.'
It would appear Mary Kelly lacked moral (Victorian) standards, if indeed Tom Cullen's assertion is correct.
He's made an emphatic statement in his book, Autumn of Terror.
The gratuity had a moral means:
'Any free member ... who may by losing a limb, or having one disabled by accident or otherwise, or through blindness, imperfect vision, apoplexy, epilepsy or paralysis, be rendered permanently unable to follow any of the branches of the trade ... (provided such was not the result of intemperance or other improper conduct), shall receive the sum of £100 on the production to the Executive Council of satisfactory medical and other testimony of such permanent disablement.
Finally, the union offered members a funeral benefit, which provided ten pounds on their death. Five pounds was paid on the death of their wife. The aim was not to assist the dependents of a dead member, but to ensure that members received a proper burial and wake. The only provision for widows and orphans was a separate discretionary Benevolent Fund, funded from special levies.'
It would appear Mary Kelly lacked moral (Victorian) standards, if indeed Tom Cullen's assertion is correct.
Wednesday, 2 December 2015
Mary Kelly's child
There can only be one person. Thinking aloud really...
It doesn't fit with the story I'd conjured.
I'll check this again, and probably again. Then some more.
'Mary Kelly' wasn't called Mary Kelly and she wasn't ruddy Irish, but she knew the family. Came from the same village.
But why call herself a member of the Kelly family?
So she wasn't a catholic ... Least her son wasn't, unless he followed his father's denomination.
It doesn't fit with the story I'd conjured.
I'll check this again, and probably again. Then some more.
'Mary Kelly' wasn't called Mary Kelly and she wasn't ruddy Irish, but she knew the family. Came from the same village.
But why call herself a member of the Kelly family?
So she wasn't a catholic ... Least her son wasn't, unless he followed his father's denomination.
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